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Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:55 am
by SlyJti
just boughts me a brand new baller turbo for the dub....... set the wallet back 2 grand but it will be all worth it once summer comes

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:15 am
by BOOST3DWRX
Nice!

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:04 am
by g3ar5hift3r
cant wait to see the finished product... :)

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:50 pm
by SlyJti
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should be fun..... :mrgreen:

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:52 pm
by drewboi
oooo. a new pet

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:10 pm
by Running925
size / goals?

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:35 am
by SlyJti
oh ya i new pet snail.... 8)

not shootin super high. good streetable car that wont eat gas as bad. will still have lots of power as the other mods i have obtained. but sshould be around 400hp

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:37 am
by SlyJti
and as for the turbo its a borg warner s256. its basilly a 50 trim. but equivlent to a 3076.

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:48 pm
by Balt21
awesome man!

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:15 pm
by Running925
SlyJti wrote:and as for the turbo its a borg warner s256. its basilly a 50 trim. but equivlent to a 3076.


yes i'm familure.. good unit.. pricey, but good!

& 400 should be a good time on the street, provided you can get some hook.

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:03 pm
by SlyJti
actually it was too bad the turbo was 100 bucks cheaper then a garret 3076. one thing i like also is a chra from garret is like 1200 bucks or somethin to where the bw is like 600 i beieve. also i want the loud sound and to know i dont have the same turbo as most other vw do

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:24 pm
by Running925
SlyJti wrote:actually it was too bad the turbo was 100 bucks cheaper then a garret 3076. one thing i like also is a chra from garret is like 1200 bucks or somethin to where the bw is like 600 i beieve. also i want the loud sound and to know i dont have the same turbo as most other vw do


correct me if i'm wrong but the reason in the difference in cost between the two chra's is because the 3076 is ball bearing and the 256 from BW is not.

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:24 am
by SlyJti
thats correct. but the spool rate on this turbo is almost identical to a 3076. not much difference in the graphs

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:29 pm
by Running925
SlyJti wrote:thats correct. but the spool rate on this turbo is almost identical to a 3076. not much difference in the graphs


yea.. it's definatly a good turbo, i'm still trying to decide how much fundage i wanna spend on my new turbo.. thats really the determining factor on what i'm gonna purchase.

lookin at

sc61 for the cheapo factor
35r coz i like the spool time and power range

my issue is as long as i'm spooled by the 4500rpm range.. i can carry it till 10,000rpm so i'm just trying to figure out how important that extra 7-800rpm spool time is to me or if i wanna use the delay as traction control (street wise, gotz slix for track). It's all up in the air at the moment, i'll have to figure it out in the next couple weeks tho.

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:03 pm
by Nick Serra
Are you going to be running a stutterbox and NLTS?

EDIT: question directed at Tony

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:07 pm
by Running925
Nick Serra wrote:Are you going to be running a stutterbox and NLTS?

EDIT: question directed at Tony



don't destroy his thread! ;)

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:24 am
by SlyJti
Running925 wrote:
Nick Serra wrote:Are you going to be running a stutterbox and NLTS?

EDIT: question directed at Tony



don't destroy his thread! ;)


haha

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:51 am
by SlyJti
tony still up to powder coat my rims?

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:45 pm
by Running925
SlyJti wrote:tony still up to powder coat my rims?


hit me up.. i think i already sent you my phone number.

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:09 am
by SlyJti
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Borg Warner S256 Dyno « » 3:04 PM 11-22-2008 Reply to this post

25 psi on 93 octane. Full boost at 4200. These turbos are non BB too. The 256 is just a tick bigger than a 3076,

Eurodyne 630 file
IE rods with stock pistons
Stock head and cams with OEM TT intake manifold
Custom log manifold
Custom FMIC
3" downpipe
Probably some other little stuff I'm leaving out.

I need to get some pics of the complete build up. It's pretty slick, engine bay looks pretty clean just a big turbo in back, all IC piping runs underneath. Engine cover would fit no problem.

Modified by 1.BillyT at 9:50 PM 11-22-2008

and here is a pic compared to the garret 30076r......
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2220363
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the garret is on the left and borg warner on the right

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:33 am
by SlyJti

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:10 am
by Running925
that dyno plot looks like a smooth power range but i'd be a little more interested in seeing it with rpm's on the bottom to better show spool characteristics on your motor.

Yea i've seen the size compairison on HT, how much space do you have behind your motor for that thing?

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:22 am
by drewboi
just enough.. haha...

iv seen people on the jbody sites squeeze turbos on the ld9's and every time they accelerate the turbo smacks the firewall because the motor mounts are really stretchy,bouncy,whatever you want to call it..

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:22 pm
by Running925
drewboi wrote:just enough.. haha...

iv seen people on the jbody sites squeeze turbos on the ld9's and every time they accelerate the turbo smacks the firewall because the motor mounts are really JUNK/Worn Out / Shitty..


Fixed

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:41 pm
by drewboi
much better... dick :mrgreen:

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:51 pm
by Running925
drewboi wrote:much better... dick :mrgreen:



lol ;)

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:41 pm
by Rb25Cory
Let me get this straight, could be a slightly ignorant post here but you paided 2k for a journal bearing turbo? I thought Borg Warners were more on the cheap side.

You never considered the HTA 30r?

EDIT: I just read more into your post. I see it wasnt 2k.

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:46 pm
by SlyJti
Rb25Cory wrote:Let me get this straight, could be a slightly ignorant post here but you paided 2k for a journal bearing turbo? I thought Borg Warners were more on the cheap side.

You never considered the HTA 30r?

EDIT: I just read more into your post. I see it wasnt 2k.



i have enough room to fit a 35r in there. lol. ane nice new stiff motor mounts to hold that bish in place. i paid 2k for turbo, down pipe and manifold. looked at the hta from sav but didnt wanna spend that much on a turbo right now as im kinda worried about my job since i work at greenwood.

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:58 pm
by Rb25Cory
I gotcha, doesn't sound like a bad deal granted they are quality components. Money is always an issue. Life first, car second. :thumbsup:

Re: well car is finally makin progress....i think

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:22 am
by fbirdformula
SlyJti wrote:
Rb25Cory wrote:Let me get this straight, could be a slightly ignorant post here but you paided 2k for a journal bearing turbo? I thought Borg Warners were more on the cheap side.

You never considered the HTA 30r?

EDIT: I just read more into your post. I see it wasnt 2k.



i have enough room to fit a 35r in there. lol. ane nice new stiff motor mounts to hold that bish in place. i paid 2k for turbo, down pipe and manifold. looked at the hta from sav but didnt wanna spend that much on a turbo right now as im kinda worried about my job since i work at greenwood.


get my damn truck back ot me!!!