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Postby I run 9's » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:20 pm

I copied this from a buddy that posted it on tubbys, thought it might be good here.

Simple but true

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POWER TIPS:

Big Power - Focus where it matters
By Don Terrill (c)

When trying to make more power, it's very easy to waste
a bunch of time on things that don't matter. The
following lists will help to focus your time and money
- Do these first and then consider other areas. Rules
may limit some of your options, but these are the
biggies.

The Engine:

1. Power-Adders - Considered by many as the easy way
out, but you can't deny the results of nitrous oxide,
blowers and turbo chargers. In fact, HP per Dollar,
nothing beats nitrous. I know many racers will have too
much pride to consider power adders, but there's still
no doubt their position for this list.

2. Engine size - Unless there was some really good
reason, why would anyone build a 289 Ford, 327 Chevy or
396 Chevy? With the current price of aftermarket
stroker crankshafts, there's no excuse for not building
big.

3. Intake & Exhaust - Like the cliche' goes, an engine
is just an air pump. So, anything we can do to increase
the amount of air entering and leaving the cylinder is
going to increase power. Follow the air path - hood,
air cleaner, carb, intake, heads, headers, mufflers and
tailpipes.

4. Compression - The need for better fuel and added
load on engine components make this no free lunch, but
there's no doubt the power potential of increased
static compression.

5. Valve Events - The right camshaft and rocker ratios
will maximize the amount of air that is compressed
before combustion. Valve timing is half the equation in
calculating dynamic compression (static compression and
valve timing).

Now that you've got the power, don't waste it.

The Car:

1. Weight - Nothing lightens the load quicker than
actually lightening the load. If rules permit, or there
are no rules, why not choose the lightest car possible?
You can also trim weight from your current car - start
at the front of the vehicle and work your way back.

2. Hook - It doesn't matter if you're stock car racing
or drag racing, all the horsepower in the world is
worthless if you can't hook it.

3. Gear ratios - Every engine has an optimal rpm range
- torque converters, transmissions and rear gear ratios
can all be adjusted to keep an engine in that range.

So, if you're starting from scratch, why not build the
biggest engine, put it in the lightest car and then
bolt on your power-adder of choice?

More technical tips:
http://racingsecrets.com/technical_racing.html
http://speedtalk.com/store.html
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Postby Rb25Cory » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:03 pm

thanks for that, I'll be selling my 151 CI motor for a 502 big block.
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Re: simple but true, a very good read for ya

Postby EVIL_WS6 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:49 pm

I run 9's wrote:2. Engine size - Unless there was some really good
reason, why would anyone build a 289 Ford, 327 Chevy or
396 Chevy? With the current price of aftermarket
stroker crankshafts, there's no excuse for not building
big.


None of them know what this means Craig. They don't like BIG V8's :roll: and they almost never refer to thier engine size in cubic inches. You're on the wrong forum with this thread. :nono: Talk about V-V-T, half-shafts, awd, intercoolers and turbos here only, thanks. :thumbsup:
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Re: simple but true, a very good read for ya

Postby I run 9's » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:23 am

EVIL_WS6 wrote:
I run 9's wrote:2. Engine size - Unless there was some really good
reason, why would anyone build a 289 Ford, 327 Chevy or
396 Chevy? With the current price of aftermarket
stroker crankshafts, there's no excuse for not building
big.


None of them know what this means Craig. They don't like BIG V8's :roll: and they almost never refer to thier engine size in cubic inches. You're on the wrong forum with this thread. :nono: Talk about V-V-T, half-shafts, awd, intercoolers and turbos here only, thanks. :thumbsup:


So you , me , and Gary are the only ones interested in this then. Perhaps you should allow me back on your page so I can stretch my brain a little bit. I promise to get along with you and your brother :thumbsup:
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Postby I run 9's » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:29 am

I think that post can still be adapted here. They make stroker cranks for small engines, a good exhaust and intake is a good idea regardless of cubes. Nitrous is the cheapest power adder or best bang for the buck. Cam selection is important. Take out #2 under "engine" and everything applies to the majority on this forum IMO. I'm not a 4 banger basher so don't think I posted that as a dig or whatever guys. I'm just "the old bald guy" remember?
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Postby LSXhilarating » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:33 am

I like n2o alot....its really really fun....good peice to read though 8)

As far as the weight thing yea yep....found that part of the equation out.

Ya no matter what you drive all could apply. Hell look at the guys that are throwing V8's into Miatas, 944s, Datsons and S2000s. Not so much for the crowd in this area but all can deffinately apply.
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Postby Rb25Cory » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:09 am

The thing for me and my tiny 6 cylinder is all about the proper sized turbo squeezing as much air as possible into the cylinders. That should get the job done.

As for cranks, mine is basically the strongest I can buy, and its yes factory. People have ran 1300-1400hp through them no problem. There are Japanese companies that make longer stroked cranks that are just as strong If I felt like paying 2 grand for it....

I pretty much know all there is to making my motor make power, its just a matter of actually doing it w/o any hiccups. I've got the proper items currently that arnt cheaped out on and are quality products which hopefully I'll be able to show some of you this summer. :) I'm actually testing a new cam shaft design for a company... I shall see what it does.
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Postby acvmotorsports » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:55 am

good stuff :thumbsup:
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Postby I run 9's » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:59 pm

Rb25Cory wrote:The thing for me and my tiny 6 cylinder is all about the proper sized turbo squeezing as much air as possible into the cylinders. That should get the job done.

As for cranks, mine is basically the strongest I can buy, and its yes factory. People have ran 1300-1400hp through them no problem. There are Japanese companies that make longer stroked cranks that are just as strong If I felt like paying 2 grand for it....

I pretty much know all there is to making my motor make power, its just a matter of actually doing it w/o any hiccups. I've got the proper items currently that arnt cheaped out on and are quality products which hopefully I'll be able to show some of you this summer. :) I'm actually testing a new cam shaft design for a company... I shall see what it does.


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Postby SVT THIS » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:26 pm

Rb25Cory wrote:I pretty much know all there is to making my motor make power, its just a matter of actually doing it w/o any hiccups.

ya, u really gotta work on that one! :thumbsup:
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Postby TurboCrvtec » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:35 pm

Different strokes for different folks.
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Postby Rb25Cory » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:52 pm

I run 9's wrote:
Whatcha got?


an rb25det, out of a Nissan Skyline... but its decently modified currently...

It would have been running last year if it wasn't for a wrong camshaft causing detrimental damage to it.
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Postby SVT THIS » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:54 pm

very fast, we are supposed to race for $$$... im aloud to use n2o... only like 100-150 shot i think he agreed to lol :P :lol: :P :lol: :D
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Postby Rb25Cory » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:55 pm

SVT THIS wrote:very fast, we are supposed to race for $$$... im aloud to use n2o... only like 100-150 shot i think he agreed to lol :P :lol: :P :lol: :D


we will race Gary no worries, I am not afraid! :) Not saying I'll win or lose, but it shall be fun.
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Postby RSbeast » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:11 pm

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Postby craracer05 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:02 pm

This should start some heated debates :wink:
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Postby RS_OWNS » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:30 am

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Postby SVT THIS » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:36 pm

craracer05 wrote:This should start some heated debates :wink:
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i raced a kid back in 04 with the plate "4N V8 KLR" it was an awd talon... my ta was bone stock, i had the ttops off and me rick and his friend in the car, it happened in kent on 261, he was rolling deep with a bunch of other ricers an a mustang (go figure) i rolled up to the stang and asked who the fastest car was and he pointed at the talon... from a dig i spanked him... he was shocked and tried saying he ran low 12s lol

that was one of the funnier plates i've seen :thumbsdown:

anyone see the evo from ohio that says "V8 HAHA"?
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Postby EVIL_WS6 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:45 pm

SVT THIS wrote:i raced a kid back in 04 with the plate "4N V8 KLR" it was an awd talon... my ta was bone stock, i had the ttops off and me rick and his friend in the car, it happened in kent on 261, he was rolling deep with a bunch of other ricers an a mustang (go figure) i rolled up to the stang and asked who the fastest car was and he pointed at the talon... from a dig i spanked him... he was shocked and tried saying he ran low 12s lol

that was one of the funnier plates I've seen :thumbsdown:


I remember that.. :lol:
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Postby JHills » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:46 pm

naw but thats a pretty funny plate, though i wouldnt put one like it on my car unless i was certain that it was the fastest thing in the area....you should only be cocky if you have facts...
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Postby craracer05 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:32 pm

naw but thats a pretty funny plate, though i wouldnt put one like it on my car unless i was certain that it was the fastest thing in the area....you should only be cocky if you have facts...

True and my car is in a million pieces right now,why I ain't sayin anything lol. I just can't wait to get to the track with it though.
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Postby SVT THIS » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:19 am

mine says SVT THIS b/c i own every cobra that comes around :twisted:
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Postby craracer05 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:16 am

Ya I'm gonna have to come with a good plate when i get mine done. Just not sure what yet.
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Postby TurboCrvtec » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:29 pm

I know one that says "1st 2 100".
I think he is right too.
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Postby BOOST3DWRX » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:04 pm

NO custom plates for me draws to much attention
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Postby EVIL_WS6 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:49 pm

BOOST3DWRX wrote:NO custom plates for me draws to much attention


Ditto. "EVIL WS6" has been retired from my car. It's on somebody else's now..
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Postby SVT THIS » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:26 am

BOOST3DWRX wrote:NO custom plates for me draws to much attention

people pay attention to wrxs?
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Postby I run 9's » Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:24 pm

SVT THIS wrote:mine says SVT THIS b/c i own every cobra that comes around :twisted:

NOT!!!
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Postby crx ef 88 » Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:20 pm

ive seen the evo with the "V8 HAHA" plate. im pretty sure it is a monster.

when i got my plate i didnt want to get anything cocky because my car is teh slow anyways.
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Postby SVT THIS » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:20 pm

I run 9's wrote:
SVT THIS wrote:mine says SVT THIS b/c i own every cobra that comes around :twisted:

NOT!!!

there are no fast cobras around, plus you may be confused (since you have a mach 1 with a cobra front bumper... its not a cobra) mustang guys sometimes get confused of what they have sometimes

...there was a fassst supercharged white 99/01 cobra with street lethal stickers on it ran a 13.85 opening day at quaker... he musta needed to "tune it a little more" :lol:
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