Take back the keys!

SVT THIS wrote:

I run 9's wrote:

SVT THIS wrote:mine says SVT THIS b/c i own every cobra that comes around

NOT!!!

there are no fast cobras around, plus you may be confused (since you have a mach 1 with a cobra front bumper... its not a cobra) mustang guys sometimes get confused of what they have sometimes

...there was a fassst supercharged white 99/01 cobra with street lethal stickers on it ran a 13.85 opening day at quaker... he musta needed to "tune it a little more"

Hows that 9 second street bike runnin for ya? mid 11's? You can't get out of the 11's even with a STREET BIKE? Try buying a Ford or a DSM next time Gary, you'll hit those 10's yet!! Terry had a Cobra you chickened out of racing, yellow 01

I run 9's wrote:I think the next time your phone rings from Terry you should answer it Gary. He's called you about 20 times in the last 60 days, are you THAT busy??? He would like to talk to you.

Oh.. is Gary one of those guys who cant answer a simple phone call...

i answer the phone to people i actually want to talk to... not tool/douchebag, i usually send them to voicemail... try and give me a call cory, guess what will happen

i remember when you first took your mach 1 to the track... was is or wasn't it dialed in at a 14.0 (sorry for embaressing you d00d)

1st time to the track never turns out good, especially the 1st time on a bike... i think i trapped damn good, whether or not you think so is of no concern to me

mach 1 dialed in at a 14.0

SVT THIS wrote:i answer the phone to people i actually want to talk to... not tool/douchebag, i usually send them to voicemail... try and give me a call cory, guess what will happen

Aww you wont hang out with me?

What if I was calling to race?! You couldn't pass that one up.

i talk to you enough on here

SVT THIS wrote:i answer the phone to people i actually want to talk to... not tool/douchebag, i usually send them to voicemail... try and give me a call cory, guess what will happen

i remember when you first took your mach 1 to the track... was is or wasn't it dialed in at a 14.0 (sorry for embaressing you d00d)

1st time to the track never turns out good, especially the 1st time on a bike... i think i trapped damn good, whether or not you think so is of no concern to me

mach 1 dialed in at a 14.0

What color is the sky in your world Gary? First time at track was 13.50 FIRST PASS!! The second time and everytime there after bone stock was 13.teens. Ya think your gonna get in the 9's with your bike like you said? roflmao I doubt anything you own will ever see the 10's let alone the 9's like you claimed when you told me you bought that bike. To quote Gary "Hey I got a 4 cylinder Honda that will beat your Mach" LMAO!!! My reply: "Bring ANYTHING YOU OWN AND I WILL SMACK IT DOWN LIKE I DO EVERY YEAR!" Hell, I'll race your bike while towing that race car of yours behind me and still beat ya!!

So your pretty much maxed out running 9.90s weight vs. horsepower best yours should run is in that low 9.80s what is your next step? n2o?

i said people ran 9.50's with them on youtube in stock form, if you talk to anyone i was aiming on just beating my time with my t/a, which i did not succeed by a little over a tenth of a second... didnt expect i was going to be doing 2.4 60' times and not using all of 1st gear

14.0 dialed mach 1... i believe duck was there and also makes fun of you about that

... brian, hes gotta run faster than 9.90 to beat my t/a... so he will probably have to drop another $1,000,000,000,000 in his car to keep up like he did when he realised i was faster

LSXhilarating wrote:So your pretty much maxed out running 9.90s weight vs. horsepower best yours should run is in that low 9.80s what is your next step? n2o?

No Brian, I was maxed out at 10.90. You see, I made 535 rwhp on my car last dyno pull. So, by that "logic" I should run only 10.90 silly. Read up a little on dyno's and torque converters. So you tell me what I'll run, since you know it all. Why am I in the 9's???

I don't know Criag.....its because your Santa Claus doing charity in the off season by handing out ice cream to over worked yard knomes

So what is the flash speed on that converter again 5000 RPM? Ok....ok....wait just minute here how much torque multiplication is it capable of now? 1.5 - 2.0 - 3.0x alright now we're getting somewhere and for every time the torque is multiplied how much horsepower is absorbed by the converter or the anti-ballooning plate to create the multiplication? General rule of thumb is for 1:1 there is no loss (asides for normal drive line loss) since no TQ/mltp. yet for every 0.5 over the 1:1 ratio, you lose 7%. (this is info you can find on any good converter ex. Prec.Ind. or Yank) Now lets go on the theory your pushing a 3.0 mltp. conv. I don't know that you do but for the sake of argument lets say ya do for this. Thats a total of a 28% loss. Now it would be 28% of your original hp figures. So not to bore everyone with all the math to figure it backwards that equals in the ballpark of 740-750rwhp if you subtracted the tq/mult of the converter.

There are other theories of thought on the weight of a non-lockup converter or a multiple disc design put on an engine, throwing off dyno numbers to but I'm tired and don't really want to go into it. Actually I think the idea of you being Santa was better.

most applications will math u about 24-28% loss on rwd

Yes this is very true but thats with a 1:1 ratio torque multiplication. When you get one with torque multiplication for every 0.5 past the 1:1 ratio the 7% more loss in HP numbers over your normal amount of drive line loss. Your TQ numbers will be awesome it will not show your true HP numbers do to the design of the converter.

g3ar5hift3r wrote:most applications will math u about 24-28% loss on rwd

I lose 25%

Or maybe it was more then that damn AWD I mean who wants to never break traction or take corners at 70mph I should just opt out for RWD

yeaaaa, I'm starting to get attached to the awd feeling...

LSXhilarating wrote:So your pretty much maxed out running 9.90s weight vs. horsepower best yours should run is in that low 9.80s what is your next step? n2o?

So Professor Overdrive, since the 9.90 was on PUMP GAS, 19 pounds of boost, and 14 degrees of timing, what will I run on race gas, 30 psi, and 22 degrees of timing with an 80 shot? still thinking 9.80's?? (I'll bet ol Gary is ) And while your figuring, see how much hp it takes Gary to drop TWO SECONDS off his et to run with the ol big daddy, I'm sure he's dying to know that one too.

Ha. Professor Overdrive.

Go back to feeding the yard knomes. I don't have the time or money to worry about what your doing here. Really. If I had the money I would finish my Mechanical Engineering Degree, get a real world job instead of the one I got now, buy a house and then I would start building a ride that I would have reason to talk shit on your car with. Oh are those fighting words. NOPE. Its simply if I could afford to play with the big dogs I would but until then its all math and numbers (which I'm damn intelligent at) yet to everyone else its just bullshit and hog wash until it puts down track times.

Assuming a world a variables here, tire size, rear gear, front drive loss do to 30 lb pulley yadda yadda yadda you'll be in the 9.40s no bottle and 9.17-9.25 bottle fed. Assuming your not slipping the belt like mad nut balls and if you can get it to hook all of it. This unlike what I stated above with the torque converter is simply a guess, noting more, real world numbers might make be believe and state other wise. THERE HAPPY....now go do it. I'll believe for eternity you don't know how to drive if you can't pilot it into the 9.1teens. DO IT....DO IT...! LOL

No pulley change necessary, same pulley just another 1k on the engine. The thing has been babied due to the injector issues I had so I never threw it a proper beating. Took it to the necessary rpm to make 30 psi twice but things were heading too lean so I aborted. I prefer your new numbers over your initial evaluation of 10.80. For the record I don't think your a dummy. I think the numbers you got out of your SUV were far more impressive than the street racing legends et's. Oh NO I DEH ENT!!!! (that's "didn't" for all you crackers out there)

I run 9's wrote:I think the numbers you got out of your SUV were far more impressive than the street racing legends et's. Oh NO I DEH ENT!!!! (that's "didn't" for all you crackers out there)

Didn't he just bolt a 150 shot on and take out the seats?! Enlighten me.

Nick Serra wrote:

I run 9's wrote:I think the numbers you got out of your SUV were far more impressive than the street racing legends et's. Oh NO I DEH ENT!!!! (that's "didn't" for all you crackers out there)

Didn't he just bolt a 150 shot on and take out the seats?! Enlighten me.

I feel he will explain it much better than I can. Unlike him, I don't assume the facts, so we'll let Professor O.D. brag a little on this one cause he deserves it.

Nick Serra wrote:Didn't he just bolt a 150 shot on and take out the seats?! Enlighten me.

I took the seats out one time, it actually ran better times on the 150 jets with the interior in but running the 125 jets it helped by half a tenth.
It ran a best interior in 12.564, best interior out 12.512 on the 125 jets. To actually get in running where it was, took sometime and experimenting. Tire pressures, launch techniques, different plugs, different octanes of gas, different engagement rpms etc. The winning combo was tires 22 psi rears, 45 psi fronts, 2 shades cooler plugs, gapped different then stock (can't remember exacts now), 112 non-oxygenated fuel, air filter, pass. side headlight out, torque braking at the line to 1900 rpm, n2o on at 2900 rpm. Netted me consistent 12.37-12.39s it did slightly better than that but, one timers don't count.

Who knows why the interior out with the 150 jets didn't help, my guess was the weight helped it bite harder, I think it had a lot more left in it, say with a proper tune and a larger intake pipe but its gone so oh well. Nothing like hitting the bottle and it violently jumping two feet to the right or left. Its hard to tell in this video but it jumps 1-2 to the right closer to the wall as the n2o turns on. Sound is off time by the way. I believe it was taken on a cell phone. Damn that thing was fun.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=28619620

I run 9's wrote: Oh NO I DEH ENT!!!! (that's "didn't" for all you crackers out there)

Daaamn mang whatu tacin, thats funny.

I run 9's wrote:

LSXhilarating wrote:So your pretty much maxed out running 9.90s weight vs. horsepower best yours should run is in that low 9.80s what is your next step? n2o?

So Professor Overdrive, since the 9.90 was on PUMP GAS, 19 pounds of boost, and 14 degrees of timing, what will I run on race gas, 30 psi, and 22 degrees of timing with an 80 shot? still thinking 9.80's?? (I'll bet ol Gary is ) And while your figuring, see how much hp it takes Gary to drop TWO SECONDS off his et to run with the ol big daddy, I'm sure he's dying to know that one too.

whyd u retard the timing so hard?
u should be able to quite a bit more than 14 degrees @ 19psi on pump... unless u didn't plan on changing pulleys and needed to put that one in a safe range?

g3ar5hift3r wrote:

I run 9's wrote:

LSXhilarating wrote:So your pretty much maxed out running 9.90s weight vs. horsepower best yours should run is in that low 9.80s what is your next step? n2o?

So Professor Overdrive, since the 9.90 was on PUMP GAS, 19 pounds of boost, and 14 degrees of timing, what will I run on race gas, 30 psi, and 22 degrees of timing with an 80 shot? still thinking 9.80's?? (I'll bet ol Gary is ) And while your figuring, see how much hp it takes Gary to drop TWO SECONDS off his et to run with the ol big daddy, I'm sure he's dying to know that one too.

whyd u retard the timing so hard?
u should be able to quite a bit more than 14 degrees @ 19psi on pump... unless u didn't plan on changing pulleys and needed to put that one in a safe range?

Intake temps were 200 plus degrees, Terry data logged the car and like I said previously, the fuel system at the time could only support so much. Better safe than sorry, been through ALOT with this car so I didn't want to push anything.

I run 9's wrote: Better safe than sorry, been through ALOT with this car so I didn't want to push anything.

...he means alot of money, like in the six figures