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35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:30 am
by Rb25Cory
Heres pics,
Turbo spins normal and all upright, but when laid on its side, it makes like grinding, nasty noises NOT smooth at all.
this plasticish black piece came out of the oil outlet housing?!





this sucks for sure.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:28 am
by boosted_em1
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:33 am
by Rb25Cory
weird thing is I've been reading about a lot of these failures, and every bearing failure I see results in seals going as well and smoke exiting the exhaust... as you can see from the inside of the t4 side, there is no oil residue, or sign of it..... its very clean for the most part...
I'm stumped...
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:59 am
by BOOST3DWRX
That is odd did you send it back to them yet or what are you going to do?
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:06 am
by Running925
hopfully you had the correct amount of oil pressure going to that turbo. The 35r's don't like a lot of oil pressure, most cars have to run a restrictor. I just hope that you've got a warrente on that thing.
Makes me skerd.. I just ordered my gt3582 last week, i hope it holds up! I went non-ball bearing tho.. just incase i needed to rebuild it, 150 vs 6-700
best of luck to ya.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:21 am
by Rb25Cory
Tony, I was using the oil restrictor PTE sent to me, I hope they do too, otherwise I'm pretty sure I'm looking at a 5-600 dollar bill....
Maybe it wasn't balanced well enough from the factor? I don't know.
Dave turbo's being sent out today to AMS, who will forward it to Precision for inspection/rebuild.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:26 am
by TurboCrvtec
Hope you get this figured out.
On bright side of turbo news, my precision just came in the mail yesterday.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:28 am
by Running925
Rb25Cory wrote:Tony, I was using the oil restrictor PTE sent to me, I hope they do too, otherwise I'm pretty sure I'm looking at a 5-600 dollar bill....
Maybe it wasn't balanced well enough from the factor? I don't know.
Dave turbo's being sent out today to AMS, who will forward it to Precision for inspection/rebuild.
Well, be honest & polite. Precision is a very straight forward company. Make sure to include milage, position of restrictor and any other information that you can.
Also, was there a sufficent drain, or by chanced did it get kinked or not have enough of a drop to the pan. They are drained via gravity. Only other thing that would cause a backup of the drain would be Positive Crankcase pressure. If your not venting it properly, or enough, you will blow the seals out almost immeadiatly. Especially with the power levels that you are reaching for.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:47 am
by Rb25Cory
Tony half inch drain lane, no kinks, feed was on top of course, return was at the base down to my stock return fitting from my stock turbo.
The seals don't appear to be blown, there is/was no leaking oil anywhere on it.
Oh yes always polite, I'm not one to freak out and act crazy when stuff like this happens. I'm pretty calm and cool about it, lol.
Nick: Good luck with it, it was my happiest delivery to date haha. I'd call them up to make sure EXACTLY what size lines fittings/restrictors if needed, all that jazz to run... just in case there was something I missed, causing this issue. You can prevent it now lol.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:23 am
by Running925
Rb25Cory wrote:Tony half inch drain lane, no kinks, feed was on top of course, return was at the base down to my stock return fitting from my stock turbo.
The seals don't appear to be blown, there is/was no leaking oil anywhere on it.
Oh yes always polite, I'm not one to freak out and act crazy when stuff like this happens. I'm pretty calm and cool about it, lol.
Nick: Good luck with it, it was my happiest delivery to date haha. I'd call them up to make sure EXACTLY what size lines fittings/restrictors if needed, all that jazz to run... just in case there was something I missed, causing this issue. You can prevent it now lol.
How about your crank case ventilation.. Hopfully you've upgraded the system due to the fact that you were pushing more boost & obviously more blow by & additional crank case pressure would need to exit. Just something else to think about.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:28 am
by Rb25Cory
Yeah I understand what you are saying, Just a Morosso Catch can, taken off both valve covers, vented to atmosphere, so its venting.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:22 pm
by acvmotorsports
Wow, what are the chances? I would be on the betting side that AMS will try and take care of you, at least they seem to be good guys, eh?
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:06 pm
by LSXhilarating
This gives me more and more reason to be wary of going turbo ever. Tell that to the manufacture or the place you bought it from! You got friends that in the future were thinking of buying turbos and now since this happened, the way they treat you will determine their decisions.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:06 pm
by SVT THIS
Right, right, right the Mona Lisa. Well look man, this car right here is like the Mona Lisa of the drift world. Han rebuilt this bad-boy from ground up. We talkin forged pistons, bigger turbo, new rise, new crankshaft. Hey man, Han's labour ain't cheap, you feel me?
...rubbish
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:47 am
by EVIL_WS6
Bummer.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:24 pm
by Rb25Cory
SVT THIS wrote:Right, right, right the Mona Lisa. Well look man, this car right here is like the Mona Lisa of the drift world. Han rebuilt this bad-boy from ground up. We talkin forged pistons, bigger turbo, new rise, new crankshaft. Hey man, Han's labour ain't cheap, you feel me?
...rubbish
You need to stop watching those gay movies....
Anyways, Turbo was shipped out on Thursday, hopefully I will hear back later next week what the deal is with it, and get it back soon so I can go finish my damn tune.
Rhyme Master over here.....
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:18 pm
by SVT THIS
oooo ya, i forgot they're gay movies....
...arent those the cars yous guys like... didnt they use an rb26 in the stang?

Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:01 am
by g3ar5hift3r
SVT THIS wrote:oooo ya, i forgot they're gay movies....
...arent those the cars yous guys like... didnt they use an rb26 in the stang?

disgraceful...
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:34 am
by Rb25Cory
SVT THIS wrote:oooo ya, i forgot they're gay movies....
...arent those the cars yous guys like... didnt they use an rb26 in the stang?

doesn't mean it was cool.... or movies we idolize such as yourself.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:15 am
by SVT THIS
he totally beat dk in the end, and he was the flipping drift king

Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:58 am
by BOOST3DWRX
SVT THIS wrote:he totally beat dk in the end, and he was the flipping drift king

In case you didn't realize drifting is a pretty big sport in the United States now, even your beloved Pontiac jumped on board...
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:32 pm
by JHills
Fucking sucks Cory....Something or someone of a higher power must not want you to have that car

Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:52 pm
by Rb25Cory
JHills wrote:Fucking sucks Cory....Something or someone of a higher power must not want you to have that car

I've been thinking that for a while now, but I am bringing all the force I have to offer to combat. lol.
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:05 pm
by JHills
Rb25Cory wrote:JHills wrote:Fucking sucks Cory....Something or someone of a higher power must not want you to have that car

I've been thinking that for a while now, but I am bringing all the force I have to offer to combat. lol.
In a sense, it'll be worth it....it'll be worth it....
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:45 pm
by SVT THIS
i had no idea that Rhys Millen was a professional drifter for pontiac, isn't Dai Yoshihara driving pontiac this year?
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:42 pm
by EVIL_WS6
SVT THIS wrote:i had no idea that Rhys Millen was a professional drifter for pontiac, isn't Dai Yoshihara driving pontiac this year?
Rhys Millen used to drift EVO's until he saw the light.. First he used GTO's now he's using Solstices. And for a little bit of trivia, he drove The General Lee in the "drifting scenes" of The Dukes movie and he was a driver for F&F Tokyo Drift. He made a cameo in the begginnig of the movie (one of the passengers on the plane)

Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:49 pm
by Rb25Cory
EVIL_WS6 wrote:Rhys Millen used to drift EVO's until he saw the light.. First he used GTO's now he's using Solstices. And for a little bit of trivia, he drove The General Lee in the "drifting scenes" of The Dukes movie and he was a driver for F&F Tokyo Drift. He made a cameo in the begginnig of the movie (one of the passengers on the plane)

Dont confuse the "light" with the "green"...
Re: 35r failure? 500 miles later... heh

Posted:
Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:07 pm
by acvmotorsports
haha I was just thinking that