Take back the keys!

My old (sold) 92 Laser RS AWD

Used to look like this..




then sold 1st time....came back destroyed/salvage titled...




then rebuilt to look like-a this






then my dumbass sold it again stupid...stupid...stupid!

Mods were:

EvoIII 16g ported i/o 34mm flapper
ported evo exh mani
evo 02 housing ported to hell
Apexi N1 full 3"
HKS VPC
HKS GCC
R/C 550s
Buschur AFPR
255 hardwire
Buschur FMIC
TurboXS type H bov
2g tb elbow
ACT 2600
Shepard Racing stage II trans (previously a Switzer box gvr4 1st etc)
braided clutch line
Dejon blowthrogh intake
KYB gr2s
Sportlines
Matrix strut bar
Ingalls adj rear uppers
2g shifter
symbroski bushing kit
brass shifter endlink/ ball bearing solid combo
17" Rota subzeros
Autometer boost/af
pocketlogger software

....prolly more.....but um...yeah it ran good

the current DSM (#4 and 6 of the 6 points of ownership out of 4 diff cars)

1992 Eclipse GST





Put it together last winter as my 'budget srt4 killer'

Mods:

Bushur UICP (had laying around from my smic setup)= free
dejon jpipe= 30
Ported to living hell 14b, gasket matched, polished housing, good guts (free)
Ported to shit 1g manififold gasket matched (free)
cleaned up exhaust ports on the head, took flashings off intake (free)
Redid the head w/ new valves/seals/hottank (bought with burnt #2 valves)
Radioshack pump rewire ($25)
Old turbo XS mbc (free)
test pipe ($5)
hacked mas/can (free)
K&N from mas laser (pre vpc) (free)

Car went a tractionless 14.2 @ 98.9 on only 13psi with a shit clutch

Tossing in a 190, 2100 and some more boost here shortly

old pic before I tossed the uicp on/redid the vc setup


so um...yea...thats for now

Perhaps a set of bc2's 60-1, fuel and the lot for springtimey.........

right now its my salt slut

very clean, loving the style.

I second that Keeping them clean is the way to go!

Looks great!

I talked to u up at quaker i think, unless it was the guy who u sold the car to? i dunno, i remember u saying u had a stang tho so i'm assuming its u

That's me!

I was pissed, I had the tune all fuxxored. I thought I blew it up kicking the snot out of the 2nd modded 03-04 cobra. Whooped his ass through the top of 3rd by like 6-7 cars, then it pulled timing, I hit 4th and I thought I blew the muffler apart

I coasted a 13.01 at 99 lol

He continued his low 12 sec pass
Needless to say he was pissed.

Sure was hot out that night though! I remeber you running like 13.9ish at like 99-100. Auto 4:10s car if I remeber right. Very clean!

I wish ford gave us some-more cubes to work with...



I plan to either bottle this fucker or centrifical forged 306.

yeah my best run that day was a 13.5 @102, it was like 90+ degrees out. Yeah, its a 4.11 w/ an auto right now... i'm in the process of doin a mad overhaul this winter though.

383 or 408 stroker (haven't decided yet) w/ a gt42r, car is ready to go cept the cage... tryin to find a buyer for it before i start building the new motor. After i get it sold its just a matter of about a month and it should be ready to get tuned

U should just buy my motor u'd have to spend maybe an extra $1,000 and u could get it to 500+hp, the internals will handle it.

so fresh, so clean. its nice to see someone with a dsm that isnt sporting huge bomex kits and gay graphics. good taste. as for 90 degree weather... you guys need to get hooked up with some cryo2 from dave. do it!

my car is carbed silly hot weather kicks my ass

the legend the killer wrote:so fresh, so clean. its nice to see someone with a dsm that isnt sporting huge bomex kits and gay graphics. good taste. as for 90 degree weather... you guys need to get hooked up with some cryo2 from dave. do it!

I'd like to get a cryo2 setup for my GSX. But I was debating between that and a meth injection system.

do a cryo2 then put it on the bottle. you can run both at the same time. thats my plan.

Not alot of people put dsm's on the bottle, not sure why, but it isn't too common unless its a full drag car. Meth injection is very popular though.

Fuck meth, nitrious.. CRY02... I like the simplicity of boost all the time, get one tune and be done. No more monkeying around with added other items to compensate for and when they arnt being used you have to turn back boost/timing. Unless its drag car however.

n2o requires no adjustment of timing if you are running less then a 150 shot. at least no one i know ever has.

95gsx wrote:

the legend the killer wrote:so fresh, so clean. its nice to see someone with a dsm that isnt sporting huge bomex kits and gay graphics. good taste. as for 90 degree weather... you guys need to get hooked up with some cryo2 from dave. do it!

I'd like to get a cryo2 setup for my GSX. But I was debating between that and a meth injection system.

I can get your eighter

Well ZEX too if you wanted to go that route haha

the legend the killer wrote:n2o requires no adjustment of timing if you are running less then a 150 shot. at least no one i know ever has.

Until you melt your pistons

you wont melt anything. its n2o. you could run 75 all day and never hurt anything.

the legend the killer wrote:you wont melt anything. its n2o. you could run 75 all day and never hurt anything.

wrong, not when your running 20-40 pounds of boost on top of it.

BOOST3DWRX wrote:

95gsx wrote:

the legend the killer wrote:so fresh, so clean. its nice to see someone with a dsm that isnt sporting huge bomex kits and gay graphics. good taste. as for 90 degree weather... you guys need to get hooked up with some cryo2 from dave. do it!

I'd like to get a cryo2 setup for my GSX. But I was debating between that and a meth injection system.

I can get your eighter

Well ZEX too if you wanted to go that route haha

How much for either one?

I'm not messing w/ n2o. Meth is about at close as I'll get to injecting anything to my motor. I don't see why you would need to have different tuning on your car w/ a cryo2 system, it just cools everything down. The meth would change your A/F ratios a bit, and that would need some compensation.

95gsx wrote:I'm not messing w/ n2o. Meth is about at close as I'll get to injecting anything to my motor. I don't see why you would need to have different tuning on your car w/ a cryo2 system, it just cools everything down. The meth would change your A/F ratios a bit, and that would need some compensation.

If you're tuning for cooler temps, then you can increase timing more and run more boost. Its usually a timing issue, if you tune it good with the cooler temps and less knock, the minute you take stop using the cryo2 you are knocking again.

95gsx wrote:

BOOST3DWRX wrote:

95gsx wrote:

the legend the killer wrote:so fresh, so clean. its nice to see someone with a dsm that isnt sporting huge bomex kits and gay graphics. good taste. as for 90 degree weather... you guys need to get hooked up with some cryo2 from dave. do it!

I'd like to get a cryo2 setup for my GSX. But I was debating between that and a meth injection system.

I can get your eighter

Well ZEX too if you wanted to go that route haha

How much for either one?

Shit ahh the CRY02 set up with the 10lb kit and the air intake node thing I want to say is in the 300-400 range.

The ZEX kit I want to say is somewhere around 500.

And the Meth kit is somewhere around 360 from AEM

Nick Serra wrote:

95gsx wrote:I'm not messing w/ n2o. Meth is about at close as I'll get to injecting anything to my motor. I don't see why you would need to have different tuning on your car w/ a cryo2 system, it just cools everything down. The meth would change your A/F ratios a bit, and that would need some compensation.

If you're tuning for cooler temps, then you can increase timing more and run more boost. Its usually a timing issue, if you tune it good with the cooler temps and less knock, the minute you take stop using the cryo2 you are knocking again.

The Meth kit is good for a tuned car like Nick said, allows for more boost safely dude to the lower temps, there were a few STi's running it for example you can run 19 lbs with the METH with the same hashness of running 16 lbs with out meth. something along those lines.

The Cry02 set up is good for cool down with a hot car your not going to see the gains that you will see with the meth but you can run it on your cooler, intake, and fuel rails if you want to chill your engine out.

Nick Serra wrote:

95gsx wrote:I'm not messing w/ n2o. Meth is about at close as I'll get to injecting anything to my motor. I don't see why you would need to have different tuning on your car w/ a cryo2 system, it just cools everything down. The meth would change your A/F ratios a bit, and that would need some compensation.

If you're tuning for cooler temps, then you can increase timing more and run more boost. Its usually a timing issue, if you tune it good with the cooler temps and less knock, the minute you take stop using the cryo2 you are knocking again.

Yup, Actually if you were running close to max boost based on your octane level right before knock, and used Cry02 to cool the charge, this will make they air more dense, increasing the amount of pressure in the charge pipes.... which could lead to predetionation since theres no extra fuel compensaiting for it and assplosion of engine. Thus it would be wise to tune for it......

To anyone who runs a 150 shot with no timing changes and has a running car/hasn't detonated, is lying to you

ESPECIALLY if its not a 'pull timing out and be safe' zex system.


To the cry-o crap...um, no. Why would I want to cool anything around my engine/intake with UNBURNABLE air?! My car won't run of c02, why would I want it there
I'd much rather run a nitrous IC sprayer, where I can at least injest a little of the high oxygen mix.

Meth/water inject is badass, but like Cory said, its more tune, and it's not always there. Cool for dragging, but open track and shit, its kinda pointless.

Nitrous, FWIW, the first 50-75 is free, for every 50 hp, you pull out 2 degrees timing. I've had a few years experience
...and shot a few fireballs back out a carb, melted some plugs, and made a really cool sail out of the ignitor on top of a piston

RSbeast wrote:
Nitrous, FWIW, the first 50-75 is free, for every 50 hp, you pull out 2 degrees timing. I've had a few years experience
...and shot a few fireballs back out a carb, melted some plugs, and made a really cool sail out of the ignitor on top of a piston

Lets just say it depends on your engine for that rule of thumb. N02 scares me... so volitile. I'd make sure I had a wideband hooked up no mater what I was placing it on with a datalogger to see exactly how lean the shot is making the motor.

Rb25Cory wrote:

RSbeast wrote:
Nitrous, FWIW, the first 50-75 is free, for every 50 hp, you pull out 2 degrees timing. I've had a few years experience
...and shot a few fireballs back out a carb, melted some plugs, and made a really cool sail out of the ignitor on top of a piston

Lets just say it depends on your engine for that rule of thumb. N02 scares me... so volitile. I'd make sure I had a wideband hooked up no mater what I was placing it on with a datalogger to see exactly how lean the shot is making the motor.

I just want no2 to purge... lol Brent.

Nick Serra wrote:

Rb25Cory wrote:

RSbeast wrote:
Nitrous, FWIW, the first 50-75 is free, for every 50 hp, you pull out 2 degrees timing. I've had a few years experience
...and shot a few fireballs back out a carb, melted some plugs, and made a really cool sail out of the ignitor on top of a piston

Lets just say it depends on your engine for that rule of thumb. N02 scares me... so volitile. I'd make sure I had a wideband hooked up no mater what I was placing it on with a datalogger to see exactly how lean the shot is making the motor.

I just want no2 to purge... lol Brent.

pshh pshh ppsshh spphhh *vrooomm* pshh ..... lol what a ricer!

RSbeast wrote:To the cry-o crap...um, no. Why would I want to cool anything around my engine/intake with UNBURNABLE air?! My car won't run of c02, why would I want it there

These systems are really only designed for turbo-charged engines. The cooling of the air allows for better combustion of the gas. A turbo heats up the air to really high temps due to the compressing of the air when it is being sent out the turbo. (Hence why we have intercoolers on turbo-charged cars). So cooling the air by about 50 degrees or so (I forget exactly how much the system cooled it) allows for a HUGE performance boost w/ out shooting anything into the engine and having to worry about blowing the motor due to an overshoot of nitrous, or tuning due to the change in the A/F ratios or timing adjustments.

just run a n/a car that that starts off with a decent amount of h.p. then add the bottle. no messing with silly turbos and other things that can just go wrong. are those fightin words? sorry. but if i run a 55 shot on my v6 with the ignition, wires, dist., intake, headers, and exhaust... im guarenteed an easy 300. not bad, eh? and a hell of a lot cheaper then turbocharging or blowing the thing. dont get me wrong... if i could... i would.