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Posted:
Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:15 pm
by BOOST3DWRX
Rb25Cory wrote:EVIL_WS6 wrote:ERABBIT23 wrote:The Neon SXT went 16.9 off the bottle and later that night went 15.5 with me driving it on the bottle. 75 shot! No hard feelings I just never get a chance to run anything worth running at the track. Its either a piece of shit or a tubbed out muscle car that goes 11.6 range and gets pissed when they lose to a Neon.

How could a "tubbed out muscle car" that runs 11.6 lose to a pos Neon that runs mid 15s with bolt ons and nitrous?

his neon does 11.3 at almost 126...
Excellent Point

Posted:
Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:17 am
by RSbeast
ZOMG a fast 'import' NO WAY!!!
I thought 15's were the limit no matter what!
I hear they make them in stick shift though....hmm....appealing


Posted:
Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:19 pm
by swagger
RSbeast wrote:ZOMG a fast 'import' NO WAY!!!
I thought 15's were the limit no matter what!
I hear they make them in stick shift though....hmm....appealing

did i miss something?

Posted:
Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:30 pm
by Rb25Cory
yeah previous page look at what I quoted....

Posted:
Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:55 pm
by ERABBIT23
swagger wrote:RSbeast wrote:ZOMG a fast 'import' NO WAY!!!
I thought 15's were the limit no matter what!
I hear they make them in stick shift though....hmm....appealing

did i miss something?
I think the dude thought the Neon SXT was mine or something? HAHA!

Posted:
Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:57 pm
by ERABBIT23
EVIL_WS6 wrote:ERABBIT23 wrote:The Neon SXT went 16.9 off the bottle and later that night went 15.5 with me driving it on the bottle. 75 shot! No hard feelings I just never get a chance to run anything worth running at the track. Its either a piece of shit or a tubbed out muscle car that goes 11.6 range and gets pissed when they lose to a Neon.

How could a "tubbed out muscle car" that runs 11.6 lose to a pos Neon that runs mid 15s with bolt ons and nitrous?

MY NEON IS A POS

I highly doubt ur Trans Am would match up against me at the track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXsldpe9 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf_-QtY ... re=related 

Posted:
Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:16 pm
by Rb25Cory
good post nice 60ft's for the FWD!

Posted:
Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:23 pm
by EVIL_WS6
ERABBIT23 wrote: The Neon SXT went 16.9 off the bottle and later that night went 15.5 with me driving it on the bottle. 75 shot! No hard feelings I just never get a chance to run anything worth running at the track. Its either a piece of shit or a tubbed out muscle car that goes 11.6 range and gets pissed when they lose to a Neon.

I thought you were saying tht kids 15 second SXT would beat 11 second cars, sorry for the confusion.
ERABBIT23 wrote:MY NEON IS A POS

I highly doubt ur Trans Am would match up against me at the track
I've been reading your posts and I watched your videos and I'm curious as to what your mods are for next season.. because you're going to need them if you want to race me.

And they say T/A guys are arrogant..
Noob..

Posted:
Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:36 pm
by ERABBIT23
EVIL_WS6 wrote:ERABBIT23 wrote: The Neon SXT went 16.9 off the bottle and later that night went 15.5 with me driving it on the bottle. 75 shot! No hard feelings I just never get a chance to run anything worth running at the track. Its either a piece of shit or a tubbed out muscle car that goes 11.6 range and gets pissed when they lose to a Neon.

I thought you were saying tht kids 15 second SXT would beat 11 second cars, sorry for the confusion.
ERABBIT23 wrote:MY NEON IS A POS

I highly doubt ur Trans Am would match up against me at the track
I've been reading your posts and I watched your videos and I'm curious as to what your mods are for next season.. because you're going to need them if you want to race me.

And they say T/A guys are arrogant..
Noob..
I am always down for challenges.......basic mods for now are AGP 60 trim at 25psi on pump gas dynoed 432whp.......next year will be AEM EMS revving to 6,800RPM from stock 6250rpm and will be on straight race gas tune at 27-28psi........probably somewhere near 460whp and over 500tq.
Car should be in the 10s with trap speeds somewhere around 128-129

Posted:
Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:41 pm
by EVIL_WS6
Sounds like fun. We'll see what the summer brings.. : )

Posted:
Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:21 pm
by SVT THIS
I met that neon kid at quaker last year, i had my black 05 SRT out... he didnt have his car @ the track but was really happy telling everyone about it lol. My T/A did 11.30's on motor without a tune on 93 octane all day lol... I love 4CYLS! (that do that on high boost + everything else on race gas)


Posted:
Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:53 pm
by Rb25Cory
SVT THIS wrote:I met that neon kid at quaker last year, i had my black 05 SRT out... he didnt have his car @ the track but was really happy telling everyone about it lol. My T/A did 11.30's on motor without a tune on 93 octane all day lol... I love 4CYLS! (that do that on high boost + everything else on race gas)

If you could read his sig, he ran that 11.3 on pump gas.....
not to mention his trap speed is higher by 6 mph.....

Posted:
Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:11 pm
by cRaNkWaLk
SVT THIS wrote:I met that neon kid at quaker last year, i had my black 05 SRT out... he didnt have his car @ the track but was really happy telling everyone about it lol. My T/A did 11.30's on motor without a tune on 93 octane all day lol... I love 4CYLS! (that do that on high boost + everything else on race gas)

Obviously he's going to be on high boost LMAO! How many 4 bangers on all motor do low 11s all day?

Get real man...V-8s obviously can do that b/c of the large displacement. But he can drive that baby home and get almost 30mpg


Posted:
Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:39 pm
by EVIL_WS6
cRaNkWaLk wrote:. But he can drive that baby home and get almost 30mpg

You can do that with our cars too..

Posted:
Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:56 pm
by cRaNkWaLk
maybe 25 highway on a totally stock t/a, but I highly doubt on a 11.30s car...

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:49 am
by EVIL_WS6
cRaNkWaLk wrote:maybe 25 highway on a totally stock t/a, but I highly doubt on a 11.30s car...
Got 32 stock and close to that now..

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:40 am
by RS_OWNS
EVIL_WS6 wrote:cRaNkWaLk wrote:maybe 25 highway on a totally stock t/a, but I highly doubt on a 11.30s car...
Got 32 stock and close to that now..
does this mean rick is gonna have an 11.30 car this summer

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:57 am
by EVIL_WS6

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:06 am
by Rb25Cory
RS_OWNS wrote:EVIL_WS6 wrote:cRaNkWaLk wrote:maybe 25 highway on a totally stock t/a, but I highly doubt on a 11.30s car...
Got 32 stock and close to that now..
does this mean rick is gonna have an 11.30 car this summer
or still get 32mpg highway........

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:27 am
by RSbeast
There's some serious bench racing over here....wow.

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:19 am
by Rb25Cory
RSbeast wrote:There's some serious bench racing over here....wow.
What are you talking about? the way things are going I should be locked into solid 9's next year.


Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:47 am
by RSbeast
No way! Me too


Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:19 pm
by cRaNkWaLk
damn, you guys are goin a little far don't you think? haha I was just making the point its totally ridiculous to compare an all motor 4 cylinder to an all motor v-8. YOU HAVE 4 MORE CYLINDERS AND MORE DISPLACEMENT, its OBVIOUSLY going to be easier to make more power. sheesh


Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:24 pm
by Rb25Cory
cRaNkWaLk wrote:damn, you guys are goin a little far don't you think? haha I was just making the point its totally ridiculous to compare an all motor 4 cylinder to an all motor v-8. YOU HAVE 4 MORE CYLINDERS AND MORE DISPLACEMENT, its OBVIOUSLY going to be easier to make more power. sheesh

lol, pretty sure he wasn't talking about you. I completely understand what you are saying.

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:34 pm
by cRaNkWaLk
Haha, oh ok wasn't planning on starting a whole 4cyl vs. 8cyl mpg war lol. I was just responding to svt this's post.

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:47 pm
by SVT THIS
11.3 on pump gas couldnt have been high boost, if it runs 11.3 on pump gas ii would like to see that for sure... i would be impressed, but i dont think thats the case.
i have an srt4 for a dd, but dont consider it a race car or has the potential to be one for that matter. its a flipping neon and thats all... its cool but not cool enough to be serious about it, ur pretty much walking on the line of building a motor and just putting it in anything and be as cool as having a neon and being serious about it. props on making it fast, but thats where it ends.
v8 vs i4 is a stupid argument because v8>i4 no matter how you look at it, v8s are gonna make more power than an i4 with the same power adder and engine setup (or n/a v8 versus p/a i4 as the case is usually) i dunno if u guys know this or not, but alot of v8's are aluminum block/heads and outweigh by a couple lbs or if not the the same as an i4... im not arguing v8 against i4, the facts speak for themselves
i try to respect anyone who takes pride in what they do to their cars no matter what they drive as long as their not a complete douche bag (except mustangs which are all gay to me) im friends with domestic/rice rockets/fast imports/bikes/fast suvs, im not partial to domestic v8s just prefer them
....and for the gas mileage topic, my t/a doesnt do bad on gas what-so-ever, its @ 1800rpm@65mph in 6th gear(with 4.56gears)... who gets good gas mileage when their racing lol, so u guys get 30 mpg when ur drag racing lol... if not then why even bring it up

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:05 pm
by cRaNkWaLk
oh well, agree to disagree I guess. Overall though I6 > V8 in many aspects.

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:34 pm
by SVT THIS
so an I6 is better than a V8? lets say you build both motors (2jzgte and an ls1) with 8:1 compression, same lift cam, came flowing heads and 30 psi on a Precision Garrett Turbo GT47 88mm turbo... what will make more power?

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:47 pm
by crx ef 88
SVT THIS wrote:so an I6 is better than a V8? lets say you build both motors (2jzgte and an ls1) with 8:1 compression, same lift cam, came flowing heads and 30 psi on a Precision Garrett Turbo GT47 88mm turbo... what will make more power?
why dont you build them both and find out for us?

Posted:
Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:58 pm
by swagger