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NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:05 pm
by njrupp
thinking about getting a zex or nitrous xpress kit over winter and install it by spring, but dont know much about nos....i dont wanna blow the eng, and want to keep it as safe as possible... so what precautions should i take, and does any one know how to tune with a safc??? :gotnos:

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:13 pm
by Nick Serra
You don't need to tune it. The wet kit adds the appropriate amount of air and fuel. You will be safe if you run it with the full throttle switch.

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:16 pm
by njrupp
would it b smart to get a wideband just to see whats going on or would that b a waste?? i looked for a kit like u were telling me about but cant find it

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:19 pm
by 03RallyRedEvo8
To be on the safe side, you probably are going to want to get tuned. Even with the zex kit, I have heard that you still need to be pulling about 2 degrees.

If you do decide to do a kit, make sure you buy all the needed accessories as well.

"Nitrous is like a supermodel with an STD, everyone wants to hit it but are afraid of the consequences"

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:21 pm
by njrupp
03RallyRedEvo8 wrote:To be on the safe side, you probably are going to want to get tuned. Even with the zex kit, I have heard that you still need to be pulling about 2 degrees.

If you do decide to do a kit, make sure you buy all the needed accessories as well.

"Nitrous is like a supermodel with an STD, everyone wants to hit it but are afraid of the consequences"

isnt that soo true

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:30 pm
by Nick Serra
http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/CustomStage1.htm

No tune needed. Comes with everything, taps into your intake, and has the WOT switch.

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:31 pm
by Nick Serra
Summit has it:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

Might wanna call or head out there and see about the WOT switch. You're gonna want a purge and bottle opener too, so you're looking under a grand for the entire setup.

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:33 pm
by 03RallyRedEvo8
I would still run it on the dyno and see where you are. I would hate to guess with nitrous.

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:18 pm
by Rb25Cory
please dont call it fucking NOS or NAWZZZ....... Nitrous I'm scared of, it can do great things along with very bad things. If I EVER was to run it it would be with a tune. Otherwise no sir no way. For safety a bit lean air to fuel ratio is the way. Your going to hate filling that thing.

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:20 pm
by Nick Serra
Rb25Cory wrote:please dont call it fucking NOS or NAWZZZ....... Nitrous I'm scared of, it can do great things along with very bad things. If I EVER was to run it it would be with a tune. Otherwise no sir no way. For safety a bit lean air to fuel ratio is the way. Your going to hate filling that thing.


Lean it out for safety?! If anything i'd richen it up. In the event that the mix isn't perfect i'd rather not get knock...

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:41 pm
by Rb25Cory
Nick Serra wrote:
Rb25Cory wrote:please dont call it fucking NOS or NAWZZZ....... Nitrous I'm scared of, it can do great things along with very bad things. If I EVER was to run it it would be with a tune. Otherwise no sir no way. For safety a bit lean air to fuel ratio is the way. Your going to hate filling that thing.


Lean it out for safety?! If anything i'd richen it up. In the event that the mix isn't perfect i'd rather not get knock...


I'm a dyslectic retard. I meant rich...... :oops:

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:58 pm
by drewboi
if your going to pay around a grand for nitrous . y not turbo.. im shure if you watch classifieds and stuff over the winter you will be able to pick up all the part for a decent price.. i watch the classifieds over at dsmtuners all the time and iv seen some good stuff go for rediculous prices

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:33 pm
by Nick Serra
drewboi wrote:if your going to pay around a grand for nitrous . y not turbo.. im shure if you watch classifieds and stuff over the winter you will be able to pick up all the part for a decent price.. i watch the classifieds over at dsmtuners all the time and iv seen some good stuff go for rediculous prices


Yah but turboing his would be a custom job. Kit's are like over 3 grand, and to hack one together would still be expensive. Not to mention he doesn't wanna completely rip apart his daily. Nitrous is the best bang for your buck if you do it safe.

:gotnos: :gotnos: :gotnos: :gotnos: lolz

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:50 pm
by drewboi
custom setups are way more fun tho :D

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:53 pm
by BOOST3DWRX
LIKE OMG SUMMIT CARRIES NITROUS EXPRESS????

SO DO I! do you people forget that I sell parts?

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:00 pm
by drewboi
ahahhaha... dont buy from dave.. he over prices stuff :twisted:

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:07 pm
by njrupp
drewboi wrote:custom setups are way more fun tho :D

and way less reliable.... turbnetics kit is around 3500, they put down 300hp at 7 psi..... and this is my dd i prob wont use nos much mayb a couple times a month intill im comfortable with it

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:43 pm
by BOOST3DWRX
drewboi wrote:ahahhaha... dont buy from dave.. he over prices stuff :twisted:


Sure

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:47 pm
by boosted_em1
just be like gilbert, open the bottle by hand at WOT and use a propane torch as a bottle heater.. now you have yourself a street racing machine :lol:

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:25 pm
by njrupp
BOOST3DWRX wrote:LIKE OMG SUMMIT CARRIES NITROUS EXPRESS????

SO DO I! do you people forget that I sell parts?

only time i dont buy from u is when im buying used

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:32 pm
by BOOST3DWRX
njrupp wrote:
BOOST3DWRX wrote:LIKE OMG SUMMIT CARRIES NITROUS EXPRESS????

SO DO I! do you people forget that I sell parts?

only time i dont buy from u is when im buying used


Woo I can start selling used! haha

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:02 pm
by drewboi
i found a used zex kit for like 500$

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:06 pm
by njrupp
drewboi wrote:i found a used zex kit for like 500$

dave will sell it cheeper to u

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:21 pm
by drewboi
lol

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:34 pm
by g3ar5hift3r
how much is a new kit for ur car? and how much of a shot will u be running? like 75? lol.
I don't really see how 40-50whp is worth almost a thousand dollars?! (40-50whp that you need to refill on)

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:40 pm
by BOOST3DWRX
g3ar5hift3r wrote:how much is a new kit for ur car? and how much of a shot will u be running? like 75? lol.
I don't really see how 40-50whp is worth almost a thousand dollars?! (40-50whp that you need to refill on)


kits like 600 something

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:48 pm
by Nick Serra
A 75 shot on a 100-something hp 4 cylinder light car will make a difference. And if he were to bolt on a turbo kit he would have to rebuild the engine anyway to see gains similar to that.

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:07 am
by Rb25Cory
Nick Serra wrote:A 75 shot on a 100-something hp 4 cylinder light car will make a difference. And if he were to bolt on a turbo kit he would have to rebuild the engine anyway to see gains similar to that.


Keith is putting down close to 300fwhp with his turbo kit on his stock Spec V. The kits 3k something, but its ALWAYS there, there is no refilling......

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:11 am
by g3ar5hift3r
40whp gain for 600-700 bucks + refills vs 150whp gain for 3,000 with no refills.... if u have the money, the best route speaks for itself imo!

Re: NOS??

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:41 am
by Nick Serra
g3ar5hift3r wrote:40whp gain for 600-700 bucks + refills vs 150whp gain for 3,000 with no refills.... if u have the money, the best route speaks for itself imo!


Why are you saying 40? He could safely run a 75 on that thing. And for a daily, he doesn't want it all the time. $1000 vs. $3000 is triple the money.