Take back the keys!

i am ordering a ton of stuff this week... have my mind made up on a lot of it... except exhaust. any ideas? remember... no rasp or fart. just clean, loud, growl. its got one muffler into dual pipes. should i keep that oem style, but replace the piping and muffler, or go with dual mufflers? magnaflows? canisters? help. anyone with a v6.

I have a F4 and it is nasty with my blitz exhaust

I like those clips that you sent me over AIM I think any of those sound good

no idea, I've never heard a good sounding grand am. Get a clip though for us!

yah post those clips that you sent me

i have a magnaflow cat and muffler and it got a clean deep growl

go one pipe, just my opinion tho

Depends how far you are going... is this like an axle back? My magnaflow sounds great to me, but I also have no cat or res to hold it back, a 3'' turbo back helps too.

True duals would be sick, but prob a PITA on that car.

taking res off on a grand am will give it a tang sound(unless u want a honda gone bad sound). learned from personal experience.. (2000 grand am)

Get one of those electronic cut outs... thats what I plan on doing with mine!

my wagon is going to have one of those soon^^ it will be fun haveing the electronic controller

acvmotorsports wrote:my wagon is going to have one of those soon^^ it will be fun haveing the electronic controller

I would almost like to put a stock exhaust back on mine, and just run the cutout. I don't know if i'm into buzzing around town anymore.

Nick Serra wrote:

acvmotorsports wrote:my wagon is going to have one of those soon^^ it will be fun haveing the electronic controller

I would almost like to put a stock exhaust back on mine, and just run the cutout. I don't know if i'm into buzzing around town anymore.

I love a good mid tone.. however the cops dont, and after starting my 240 up with new mods over summer I might need another muffler......

what cut outs are you guys looking into?

These:

http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/index.php

thats pretty sweet

just buy a real car and the cops wont yell at u for ur car being loud, they'll just expect it

the legend the killer wrote:i am ordering a ton of stuff this week... have my mind made up on a lot of it... except exhaust. any ideas? remember... no rasp or fart. just clean, loud, growl.

Good luck accomplishing that with a 3400. I took the resonator off and installed a high flow cat on my GTP and thats as close as "ricer" as anything I'll ever own. I wrecked it last winter and installed an SLP ram air hood on it, but didn't bother painting it because I decided I would rather finish my WS6 than investing $$ in a quasi-performance car like a GTP. Honestly, I wouldn't even bother with a Grand Am. That's one of those money pit cars that'll cost you 8 million dollars to run 13s and at the end of the day, people will still ask you if it's your gf's car...

EVIL_WS6 wrote:

the legend the killer wrote:i am ordering a ton of stuff this week... have my mind made up on a lot of it... except exhaust. any ideas? remember... no rasp or fart. just clean, loud, growl.

Good luck accomplishing that with a 3400. I took the resonator off and installed a high flow cat on my GTP and thats as close as "ricer" as anything I'll ever own. I wrecked it last winter and installed an SLP ram air hood on it, but didn't bother painting it because I decided I would rather finish my WS6 than investing $$ in a quasi-performance car like a GTP. Honestly, I wouldn't even bother with a Grand Am. That's one of those money pit cars that'll cost you 8 million dollars to run 13s and at the end of the day, people will still ask you if it's your gf's car...

Well said, thats kind of the impression I get from them..... But by all means if it makes you happy go for it. Just know there are more options than you might think out there...

I agree, whatever floats your boat. But just take it as a warning. There's almost no aftermarket for them and the little that does exist is basically universal stuff which offers only slight gains. I've watched people dump tons of money in the 3100 and 3400 V6 engines, including camshafts, nitrous kits and even forged internals, only to recieve lukewarm results at best. Those engines were NEVER designed for performance, but more for "sporting economy". There was a twin turbo kit offered through SLP at one time, but no one bought one and GMPP offered a Roots-style blower for about a 6 month period back in '02-'03, which only sold about 100 kits. You might be able to find one on eBay now, but even those will only get you into the low 15s. However, I do have an issue of High Performance Pontiac, where someone from Canfield actually had one in the 13s. Let me dig the issue up and I could tell you his name, but frankly, if you love your GA that much, I would consider an entire engine swap. Like an L67 GTP engine. You would be much further ahead than dumping money in bolt ons and engine components on that 3400..

EVIL_WS6 wrote:I agree, whatever floats your boat. But just take it as a warning. There's almost no aftermarket for them and the little that does exist is basically universal stuff which offers only slight gains. I've watched people dump tons of money in the 3100 and 3400 V6 engines, including camshafts, nitrous kits and even forged internals, only to recieve lukewarm results at best. Those engines were NEVER designed for performance, but more for "sporting economy". There was a twin turbo kit offered through SLP at one time, but no one bought one and GMPP offered a Roots-style blower for about a 6 month period back in '02-'03, which only sold about 100 kits. You might be able to find one on eBay now, but even those will only get you into the low 15s. However, I do have an issue of High Performance Pontiac, where someone from Canfield actually had one in the 13s. Let me dig the issue up and I could tell you his name, but frankly, if you love your GA that much, I would consider an entire engine swap. Like an L67 GTP engine. You would be much further ahead than dumping money in bolt ons and engine components on that 3400..

very true... i have one, its hard to find parts for and a huge waste of money and time.. there not meant to handle alot of hp... and at the end of the day its a Auto Grand am.... it was a good price, but i would drive it stock, and save money for a car that has potential... and this is comming from a Grand am owner

whenever i am going to make a big decision i want input too, but it all boils down to what you want. if you have narrowed it down to just two or three, then the chances are you are going to be happy with which ever one you choose.

You can make a 3.1/3100/3400 sound decent. On my old Grand Prix Turbo, I ran two Dynomax bullet mufflers [about $30 a peice from Summit], and it almost sounded like a V8. Was pretty deep for a V6 at idle, and has a nice sound when accelerating and driving. Just don't get rid of your cat, it'll sound raspy.

Lithium Lotus wrote:You can make a 3.1/3100/3400 sound decent. On my old Grand Prix Turbo, I ran two Dynomax bullet mufflers [about $30 a peice from Summit], and it almost sounded like a V8. Was pretty deep for a V6 at idle, and has a nice sound when accelerating and driving. Just don't get rid of your cat, it'll sound raspy.

I rock one of those, but its hard to ruin my motors sound... 3inch ones are like 39. Non v8 n/a exhaust notes arn't always easy to achieve with making exhaust... I'd go with something tried and true that has been proven.

i appreciate all the input. im still not sure what im looking for. have some parts, but not sure how far i wanna take it. milzy motorsports sells everything. there is a milzy sponsered grand am owner who runs their stage 2 kit and is still n/a hitting high 13's. not bad. but the 55 shot on it... you should be able to subtract a whole second off it. but the question remains... is a grand am worth 2k in upgrades? probably not. shoulda kept my sho.

Or you could just get a GTP. They're getting cheap now, and the aftermarket is crazy stupid for them. It just isn't my style other than a quick daily.