CruxSucks wrote:if you have traction problems with a mostly stock lt1 on the street, you really really cant drive. wow. its obvious your friend isnt as stupid as you are. maybe after you run some 16 second passes in your car ill drive it for you and run a 14.6spdscreaminchickin wrote: dude he wants to race from a roll cause thats pretty much his only chance.
he has no chance. period.6spdscreaminchickin wrote: because of his lack of slicks/gears.
because of his lack of horsepower is more like it.6spdscreaminchickin wrote:if he did it would be a diffrent story.
well if i had a bunch more horsepower my car would run 9's so fucking what? if i had this and that and that and slicks and that and a turbo dude, oooh man i would so beat you. yeah in your wet dreams fag.
btw why dont you get off your buddy's nuts and start talking some shit and trying to race people with your own car. oh yeah thats right because its real slow and even if it wasnt you cant drive anyway.
JHills wrote:autocross on sunday...you guys can sort out who's the better driver straight lines are for noobs
6spdscreaminchickin wrote:
noah..... i'll gladly line up with you. bet you my worst pass of the day is still better then your cars best. same with andy so who are you at? who's nut swinging now? and 3 seconds????? you think he runs a 14.90? now thats something to laugh at.
Rb25Cory wrote:Why the fuck are you guys arguing over 12-15 second cars? That shit is not fast, maybe in mahoning county, but no offence overall its just not. Who cares really?
Bottom Line.
Dig: races are generally a drivers race, unless tires are needed to prevent wheel spin.
Roll: Cars race unless the driver is missing gears, cant shift... ect.
Start trapping over 120 mph and start arguing, this is just silly.
Rb25Cory wrote:What I was trying to get at there is a lot faster cars out there than stockish, bolt on T/A’s, Mustangs, SRT-4’s, Subies ect…
RSbeast wrote:Well, to play the devils advocate, most of us spend $ to be faster than the next guy. Sometimes the next guy has us way outgunned, sometimes he doesnt. I know eactly how much fun I had when a 14 sec car flew to me. I had a fuckton. Some of my most enjoyable years of driving were the high 13 - low 14 sec range.
Ok, so there ARE a handful of mid 120ish-130 around, but it's pretty few and far between and how many times do you see them on the street? A 12 sec car ususally cleans house pretty well 6 days out of the week.
Want to go to the track? Prepare to feel dumb by the people that build cars for ONE purpose. Yeah theres tons of older guys going 7-10s as the 'norm'. Should that make you want to do the same? I could give a shit about going that fast. I do not want a car I have to trailer everywhere and that can go for SERIOUS roadracing shit too. When it all comes down to it, autox is fucking weak in itself. I mean it's fun, its fun to do, but it ain't open track.
And what's the fucking deal with this 'real men turn' bullshit. You aren't on fucking Road Atlanta. You are in A PARKING LOT. You don't have all kinds of crazy elevations, you don't have 100mph sweepers. You navigate cones in a semi techincal course at 40mph. Go get out on a real fucking track and see how bad your shit sucks ass. I know mine sure fucking did.
Cost of a track day? Not including the prep of the car/cost of the car/mods/saftey equipment? Around $150-300 for an event. NOT including the tires that you WILL be going through if you are remotely competitive, the brakes you will CASH by the time you are done, the fluids that will all need swapped out and flushed because you've cooked the fuck out of it. It's like a $500-1000 trip for a real event easy. Yeah its seattime but at what cost.
Compare that to the 'blue collar' sport of drag racing. Guess why its more popular?
I for one dont have a zo6 or a porsche etc. that has a cooler for every fluid, that is well dialed from the factory etc. and if I did, I would be second guessing having it wadded up into the tires by myself or another. I like my paint un-peppered. Maybe I'm a wuss but I'd rather have a car that I just enjoy and not tear the fuck out of. If I did, I would just keep the DSM as a half ratty mess and track whore the shit out of it, like so many others.
Does tracking your shit to the point of looking abused make you cooler? Hell if I know. It makes your car look like ass. But you've enjoyed it and that's what counts. I love seeing stuff get used, but I hate seeing cool shit beat to death. If I see a vette with paint rubbed down the door, I don't assume it got it on the track unless the car is filthy dirty and wearing a set of Avons.
Idk...just do your thing. None of us can even keep a car fucking running around here so idk wtf the issue is. Bill's mustang WILL go 120s EASY on the bottle as it's not terribly far off anyhow from his best MPH. He's enjoying it how he sees fit. Drives it on the steet and has fun. If you're doing the best you can in a 15sec car then that's all the better. I get the most use out of my daily driven DSM that hauls ass anywhere be it snow and rain etc and it does it day in and day out.
To me thats what most of these kids are doing as not everyone has the luxury of having a few cars. That's cooler to me then my worthless red POS in my sig that comes out when I feel like it and it's nice out.....what fun is that.
You should be happy that whatever you put together yourself does what it does because YOU did it. That and drive what you really want and enjoy. If that starting point costs $500 or $20,000. As long as you're cool with investing 10-20k into a fucking POS car that's worth 1/4 of it and you're cool with it, don't knock others that put the $ into things that actually count in life. Fuck cars anymore. Wish I wouldve never touched em and invested the $...least its a hobby
92tegGP wrote:RSbeast wrote:Well, to play the devils advocate, most of us spend $ to be faster than the next guy. Sometimes the next guy has us way outgunned, sometimes he doesnt. I know eactly how much fun I had when a 14 sec car flew to me. I had a fuckton. Some of my most enjoyable years of driving were the high 13 - low 14 sec range.
Ok, so there ARE a handful of mid 120ish-130 around, but it's pretty few and far between and how many times do you see them on the street? A 12 sec car ususally cleans house pretty well 6 days out of the week.
Want to go to the track? Prepare to feel dumb by the people that build cars for ONE purpose. Yeah theres tons of older guys going 7-10s as the 'norm'. Should that make you want to do the same? I could give a shit about going that fast. I do not want a car I have to trailer everywhere and that can go for SERIOUS roadracing shit too. When it all comes down to it, autox is fucking weak in itself. I mean it's fun, its fun to do, but it ain't open track.
And what's the fucking deal with this 'real men turn' bullshit. You aren't on fucking Road Atlanta. You are in A PARKING LOT. You don't have all kinds of crazy elevations, you don't have 100mph sweepers. You navigate cones in a semi techincal course at 40mph. Go get out on a real fucking track and see how bad your shit sucks ass. I know mine sure fucking did.
Cost of a track day? Not including the prep of the car/cost of the car/mods/saftey equipment? Around $150-300 for an event. NOT including the tires that you WILL be going through if you are remotely competitive, the brakes you will CASH by the time you are done, the fluids that will all need swapped out and flushed because you've cooked the fuck out of it. It's like a $500-1000 trip for a real event easy. Yeah its seattime but at what cost.
Compare that to the 'blue collar' sport of drag racing. Guess why its more popular?
I for one dont have a zo6 or a porsche etc. that has a cooler for every fluid, that is well dialed from the factory etc. and if I did, I would be second guessing having it wadded up into the tires by myself or another. I like my paint un-peppered. Maybe I'm a wuss but I'd rather have a car that I just enjoy and not tear the fuck out of. If I did, I would just keep the DSM as a half ratty mess and track whore the shit out of it, like so many others.
Does tracking your shit to the point of looking abused make you cooler? Hell if I know. It makes your car look like ass. But you've enjoyed it and that's what counts. I love seeing stuff get used, but I hate seeing cool shit beat to death. If I see a vette with paint rubbed down the door, I don't assume it got it on the track unless the car is filthy dirty and wearing a set of Avons.
Idk...just do your thing. None of us can even keep a car fucking running around here so idk wtf the issue is. Bill's mustang WILL go 120s EASY on the bottle as it's not terribly far off anyhow from his best MPH. He's enjoying it how he sees fit. Drives it on the steet and has fun. If you're doing the best you can in a 15sec car then that's all the better. I get the most use out of my daily driven DSM that hauls ass anywhere be it snow and rain etc and it does it day in and day out.
To me thats what most of these kids are doing as not everyone has the luxury of having a few cars. That's cooler to me then my worthless red POS in my sig that comes out when I feel like it and it's nice out.....what fun is that.
You should be happy that whatever you put together yourself does what it does because YOU did it. That and drive what you really want and enjoy. If that starting point costs $500 or $20,000. As long as you're cool with investing 10-20k into a fucking POS car that's worth 1/4 of it and you're cool with it, don't knock others that put the $ into things that actually count in life. Fuck cars anymore. Wish I wouldve never touched em and invested the $...least its a hobby
im glad i took the time and read that! its oh so true.
The forums are getting interesting again!
Rb25Cory wrote:cars are an enormous waste of money, but yet people still spend money on them. I am very much included in that statistic; it is really a “sickness†as Mr Vaccar stated to me once lol.
instead it sits 11 months out of the year while I save money, and build just to destroy it…
evryone said Brians Mustang would beat me. Everyone said Jasons 3rd gen would beat me. Everyone said Sams 12 second Mach 1 would destroy me. Fact is that you don't know who will win. Who should could and would win is irrelevant. Lets leave the bench racing for Viper Alley and lets find out who does win.
I'm not sure who your "well if i had a bunch more horsepower my car would run 9's so fucking what?", but if its directed at me I want to make it clear: I'm not making excuses, I'm not saying if I had slicks and a gear and a cam and all sorts of other stuff I would beat you, I'm not talking shit. I'm saying that if we are on equal tire I think I can win. If we race and you win, I'm not the kind of person to make excuses. My offer is this: Street tires from a dig, or a 35/65 mph roll. No shit talking, no excuses, just a straight up race for fun.
CruxSucks wrote:no man none of that shit talking was directed at you, that was in response to bretts post. i can tell your just in it for fun and your not talking shit. i raced a 6 speed t-top ls1 car (with slp loudmouth, lid, i think thats about it, and im pretty sure it was a 3.42 car) from a 40ish roll and put a few buslengths on him thats why i was talking shit to brett about how i will destroy your car, which i would from a roll, and even worse from a dig.
honestly if i happen to see someone on the street who wants to race i wouldnt back down, but if i am going to arrange a race i think its retarded to arrange it anywhere but at the track. if you cant make it the day im there thats fine, im not the type to talk shit just because you didnt/couldnt show up when i was there. if youre there on the 24th, id be more than glad to give you a shot at my car.
Rb25Cory wrote:Why the fuck are you guys arguing over 12-15 second cars? That shit is not fast, maybe in mahoning county, but no offence overall its just not. Who cares really?
Bottom Line.
Dig: races are generally a drivers race, unless tires are needed to prevent wheel spin.
Roll: Cars race unless the driver is missing gears, cant shift... ect.
Start trapping over 120 mph and start arguing, this is just silly.
g3ar5hift3r wrote:evryone said Brians Mustang would beat me. Everyone said Jasons 3rd gen would beat me. Everyone said Sams 12 second Mach 1 would destroy me. Fact is that you don't know who will win. Who should could and would win is irrelevant. Lets leave the bench racing for Viper Alley and lets find out who does win.
I'm not sure who your "well if i had a bunch more horsepower my car would run 9's so fucking what?", but if its directed at me I want to make it clear: I'm not making excuses, I'm not saying if I had slicks and a gear and a cam and all sorts of other stuff I would beat you, I'm not talking shit. I'm saying that if we are on equal tire I think I can win. If we race and you win, I'm not the kind of person to make excuses. My offer is this: Street tires from a dig, or a 35/65 mph roll. No shit talking, no excuses, just a straight up race for fun.
i guess you're looking at this a different way.... its not that your car was faster, its that a certain speed (in my case 110+mph) your car was faster
Bigger carb on my car now anyway, i'd love a rematch
point being,we could race at the track all day under whatever conditions u want (tire choice etc) and u don't have a chance...
either way,just figured id save u the trouble...his car is about two seconds out of ur league
Markdawg20 wrote:The display board at Quaker need not display the 1/4 mile et's, but should only display trap speed becuse that is the only important piece of informformtion one can get from drag racing, besides how strong their drivetrain compontets are. A "mans" car can pull at least 1g of lateral acceleration for extended periods of time without oil starvation, has 50/50 weight distribution about the front and back wheels, and come to a stop from a 100mph roll in under 290ft. A sports car.
Pass it on.
Droptop Z wrote:
Are you saying that only people with 10 second cars can be competitive? I've had more fun racing kids at school with my moms 19.2 @ 65 mph Kia Sorento than I have had racing my Camaro, and we'd always get into arguements over who's 19 second machine was the fastest. Maybe it is silly, but who cares? It's fun.
Rb25Cory wrote:So why get all bent out of shape about beating someone by 1mph and a tenth of a second? I could see if its just fun between two buddies, you like to give some shit to, but this is like a little battle on here. .
njrupp wrote:Yes the forums are interesting again, cory i ment no offence to u, i never saved up to get what i wanted i took out a loan, looking back on it i wish i woulda saved but im having fun now so its all good, im just messing with brett just making some friendly competition i know he,ll win i just like messing with him
njrupp wrote:6spdscreaminchickin wrote:
noah..... i'll gladly line up with you. bet you my worst pass of the day is still better then your cars best. same with andy so who are you at? who's nut swinging now? and 3 seconds????? you think he runs a 14.90? now thats something to laugh at.
im expecting u to run 14.90 1st pass, i do expect u to win being ur a v8... i mean cmon u have a fucking v8 , hopefully i run better than a 15.5, .... as u can see from vids we posted it dont matter what some1 say ur car will run.. it matters what time u can run it... like that bad ass mustang gt all modded up running 15.90s(driver mod)
but in all seriousness u will win just trying to stir things up, ill give u congrats when ur v8 runs a faster that my mostly stock 4cyl
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