Take back the keys!

I'm lookin for a dirt cheap civic or integra that has a straight body that is mostly complete.

i don't care how much rust it has, must be 1992+

And i really mean dirt cheap, we can only spend 500 dollars on this project and that includes motor work, & track prep'ed. Luckly cage, all safty equipt. won't count into that 500.

this car is going to be entered into a 24hr. Lemon Race at nelson ledges race track. It will have to survive 24hrs. of serious abuse.

When time gets a little closer i'll probably be looking for some volentary pit crew assistance to help out my team (of 4 drivers), so if anyone is interested in hangin out & haveing a good time with a little bit of workin on the race clunker. Lemme kno

If you don't know much about this race, i've posted some info below to give you a little bit of an idea how this works.

Most laps wins, car could be pulled off track and torched at any time.


A little bit about the race:
Each LeMons race is for cars purchased, fixed up, and track-prepped for a total of 500 dollars or less. But before reaching the grid, you'll have to survive trials like the Personal-Injury-Lawyer Anti-Slalom, the Marxist-Valet Parking Challenge, and the Wide Open Throttle Rodthrowapalooza. Twelve hours into the race, the car voted People’s Choice is called in and awarded a cash prize; simultaneously, the car voted People’s Curse is called in and summarily destroyed. At the end of 24 hours, a gala awards ceremony plies the survivors with trophies, plaques, and four-figure purses in canvas bags full of nickels. What's not to like?
2009 SCHEDULE: Ten '09 races (see them here) are now open for signups; the search for a cure continues.

RULES
1.0: WARNING: Racing is Exceedingly Taxing, both Physically and Mentally. When driving a racecar, you'll be exposed to extreme (both high and low) temperatures; to dense smoke and fumes; to intense shocks and vibration; to very loud noises; and to a variety of other unusual, exhausting, confusing, and stressful conditions. Even if you think you're in excellent health, tell your doctor what you're planning to do; get a full pre-competition physical exam before you start racing; and establish a schedule for regular re-tests.
1.1: Organizer Decisions: Organizer's decisions are final. If you don't like it, tough. Get your own race.
1.2: Unsafe Vehicles and/or Drivers: At organizer's sole discretion, any unsafe car or driver may be removed from the event at any time.
1.3: Refunds and Compensation for Loss: There are none. Forget it. It ain't gonna happen. You get zip. Squat. Nada. Can't get your act together? Tough nuts. T-boned on Lap One? Listen to the crickets. Abducted by space aliens? Boo-hoo, L. Ron. Jay ran you over in his RV? Then you shouldn't have been...wait a minute...okay, that actually might be our fault.

1.4: Claiming Race: At the end of the competition, the organizer--and nobody else, you lazy, better-car-wantin' bastids--may elect to purchase any vehicle from its owner(s) for $500. In other words, don't spend a lot on a cheater, cause if you do, you ain't gonna own it much longer.
1.5: Winners and Prizes: The car which completes the most laps is the Winner on Distance. The Winner on Distance receives $1500--usually in nickels. Recipient of the highest score in the Index of Effluency--as determined by a super-secret equation including vehicle age, general hooptieness, reliability of country of origin, unlikelihood of success, and Organizers' whim--is the Winner on Index. The Winner on Index receives $1000. Recipient of the People's Choice Award, as determined by totally unscientific, and almost certainly totally unfair, pit-side opinion and chitchat, receives $500.

1.6: Your Car May Be Destroyed at Any Time: In addition to accidents and other unfortunate boo-boos, one car may be selected by blind ballot of all teams for immediate removal and total destruction. It could be your car. It probably WILL BE your car. You'll have 30 minutes to yank out any safety items you want to rescue, and then it's toast. Them's the breaks. Don't bring it if you ain't OK with losing it.

1.7: Right of Publicity: You and your brilliant, pithy utterances may be photographed, recorded, or otherwise reproduced and re-used whenever and wherever the heck the organizers like (including but not limited to magazines, radio, biblical apocrypha, CinemaScope epics, and cave paintings). You won't get a penny unless somebody sees it and buys you a coffee. If you're not comfortable with that, wear a Mexican wrestler mask and/or stay home.

Sounds nuts! And fun

When is the deadline to enter and when is this?

I've followed the others on Jalopnik or whatever before, looks like a LOT of fun haha. Wish I had a welder lol

race isn't till oct.

so there is plenty of time.. but be ware.. there is a lot of hidden cost to this type of a race.

Yeah, I could see this being a $1500 endeavour easy. The $500 isn't so much the attraction but rather the fun of the event.

At worst I can prolly pit crew for you guys.

im down to help just let me know what you need help with tony... i know how a wrench works and im not afraid to use one

either way.. just being there is going to be a blast! We'll be camping out & cookin on the grill and what not. Should be a load of fun.

let me know when this is closer to the time of it happening tony. i atleast want to come check out the janky "race cars"

This sounds fun, and probably a very slow race. lol. I should have kept my fuckin WAGON! damnit.

You did see the price on this right?....

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/rules/

PRICE

Entry: $500 per car + $100 per driver + $75 for non-drivers. (Each team must have 4-6 drivers.)

This fee covers registration, track time, paddock pass, track insurance, on-site ambulance crew, sweatshop-made commemorative crap, and anything else we come up with by then. Non-driving team members get all the same bennies except track time.

Not going to be working on a car or hanging out in any of the assigned pit spaces? If so, general-access paddock passes are $20/day or $30/weekend, available right at the gate. Grandstand-only seating is offered by the occasional track as well, but that's not something we have any involvement with--please contact the individual racecourses to inquire. Each track also has its own policy on children under 16 in the grandstands or paddock; again, contact the course for more info.

That price is fucking insane. NO WAY.

tony there is a Da integ shell on ohiohondas minus motor and trans right now for 400 bucks. maybe the guy will work a little on the price.

Rb25Cory wrote:Entry: $500 per car + $100 per driver + $75 for non-drivers. (Each team must have 4-6 drivers.)

Jesus!

I'll just leave this here.

cory don't be a baby it costs money to have fun.. figured u would have learned that by now with all the motor's you've gone through!

(as for the slow comment, i'm gonna laugh, when my team's 500 dollar car nails better lap times than your 240)

I've added everything up and this race is going to cost 3k for everything. I'm fully prepaired to make these arrangements.



as far as the car goes on OH, i'm gonna be looking for something more in the range of 100-200 bux that has everything in it so that i can still meat the required 500 dollar maximum. There is a lot that has to go into a car that will be seeing redline for 24hrs.

I haven't had fun yet?


... I hope you didn't take that comment as an attack.. I feel like you did.. 240's been around nelson. It went pretty good thanks.

$3000 for 24 hours of fun.. to each their own, this sounds cool if you had the expendable cash.

Rb25Cory wrote:I haven't had fun yet?


... I hope you didn't take that comment as an attack.. I feel like you did.. 240's been around nelson. It went pretty good thanks.

$3000 for 24 hours of fun.. to each their own, this sounds cool if you had the expendable cash.

it's all cool.. i just don't think u understand what you just said!

The only think i'll be out of pocket is my fire retardant suit (100 bux)

do the math. (engeneering terms)

$3000 (nelson race) / by 24hrs. / 60min. = 2.08 Dollars per Minute
$25 (quaker entry) / 1.2min. ( six 12sec passes at QCR) = 20.83 Dollars per Minute

which one looks like a better deal now!

Running925 wrote:
it's all cool.. i just don't think u understand what you just said!

The only think i'll be out of pocket is my fire retardant suit (100 bux)

do the math. (engeneering terms)

$3000 (nelson race) / by 24hrs. / 60min. = 2.08 Dollars per Minute
$25 (quaker entry) / 1.2min. ( six 12sec passes at QCR) = 20.83 Dollars per Minute

which one looks like a better deal now!

I understand what I said, these cars will be slow, and be boring as fuck to watch. Don't get me wrong you will be having a BLAST inside driving it.

Your calculation is wrong. In Engineering terms it would be

$3000 (nelson race) / by 24hrs. / 60min. * 4 drivers (assuming = share of driving) = 8.333 Dollars per Minute

Anyway you slice it Tony dropping $3000 in one day is dropping 3 grand in one day.

Whats this talk about before the racing they can pick a car to destroy? WTF is that?

Roadracing is way more fun than drag IMO. I get that, however if your so gun-ho on it (basing this off your above calculation), why haven't you built something for the turns? You seem to do great work on most everything you touch, I'm sure you could build a pretty nice track car.

[quote="Rb25Cory
I understand what I said, these cars will be slow, and be boring as fuck to watch. Don't get me wrong you will be having a BLAST inside driving it.

Your calculation is wrong. In Engineering terms it would be

$3000 (nelson race) / by 24hrs. / 60min. * 4 drivers (assuming = share of driving) = 8.333 Dollars per Minute

Anyway you slice it Tony dropping $3000 in one day is dropping 3 grand in one day.

[/quote]

If your gonna go that way with the math, then proportionally you should have divided the 3k by 4 drivers which still nets the same $2.08 that i started with!


ohh.. i forgot to mention that the plans were to get this car so cheap so that i had enough room in the budget for a junk yard turbo setup. You figure 220whp in a 2000lbs. car is gonna get net a pretty decent power to weight ratio and with a small stockish turdbo on there.. spool will be perfect for commin outa corners.

the suspension in my red car is fully adjustable and normally setup for hard turns & street driving.. i just stiffen the rear and soffen the front when i go drag racing. And toss on some meaty tires of course.

Running925 wrote:
If your gonna go that way with the math, then proportionally you should have divided the 3k by 4 drivers which still nets the same $2.08 that i started with!


ohh.. i forgot to mention that the plans were to get this car so cheap so that i had enough room in the budget for a junk yard turbo setup. You figure 220whp in a 2000lbs. car is gonna get net a pretty decent power to weight ratio and with a small stockish turdbo on there.. spool will be perfect for commin outa corners.

the suspension in my red car is fully adjustable and normally setup for hard turns & street driving.. i just stiffen the rear and soffen the front when i go drag racing. And toss on some meaty tires of course.

You never said the whole "team" was required to pay lol.

How do they figure the $500.00 then? Does it count if you have your own parts laying around? Or if you have donated parts like back in the day Monster Garage?

If you get the numbers your hoping for, I'd say that is a great power to weight ratio... I feel the hardest part will be lasting the full 24hrs without major set backs...... I guess KISS mentality would help this. Rip out EVERYTHING that is non essential to the car racing or safety.

I'll let you know if I come across a steal.

i can get you a s10 for 150$ turbo that

drewboi wrote:i can get you a s10 for 150$ turbo that

lol turbo charging the s10 isn't the problem.. would cost the same as the honda.. the problem comes into play where i can chip a honda ecu for 17 dollars and tune it for free! I can't do that with the s10 man!

tuneings overated... haha

drewboi wrote:tuneings overated... haha

tuning is what keeps motors alive!

but rebuilding them is so much fun... and that POP just sounds so cool

drewboi wrote:and that POP just sounds so cool

only when it's happening to the other guy!

very true

i might be able to find you a cheap civic i believe its a 96 ill pm you if i can find out if the dude sold it or not

itsalaser wrote:i might be able to find you a cheap civic i believe its a 96 ill pm you if i can find out if the dude sold it or not

definatly interested in hearing about this one.

im in for hanging out haha

i'd make the trip down to hang out, or if u need pit crew members. sounds cool. (the random destruction of a car is pretty retarded tho...)